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#186299 - 04/04/02 02:31 PM new "ketron XD-9"
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outstanding orchestral sounds
explosive new styles with a full integration of live drums
enhanced interactive arranger
real time drum remix
flash sound update
hard disk and vocalizer options
easier pattern acces
user friendly operation

* looks like x1 with speakers included.
* 61 keys , 6 velocity curves
* 60 proggrammable 1 touch sounds
* digital (10) drawbars
* 8 mbytes flash memory blank or preloaded.
* 172 internal styles
I have played on the "proto-type" nice sounds and groovy styles !!!
greetings Notlos http://www.mp3.com/dirkbaert


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#186300 - 04/04/02 03:35 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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How much does it weigh?
Don
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#186301 - 04/04/02 03:40 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Hi don,
weight: 16 kg (35.2 lbs)
Regards,
Notlos

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#186302 - 04/04/02 04:33 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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How does it compare to X1?
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#186303 - 04/04/02 05:45 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Hi Notlos:

Great to read your post here. Have you attended or played any cool jazz gigs lately?

The XD-9 sounds exciting and a STRONG purchasing consideration for me.

1) Are the acoustic piano(s) sample(s) the same one used on the SD1 or? I hope they're a LOT better than the one on the X1.

2) How do the XD-9 sounds/styles compare to the SD1/X1? I assume that with 61 keys, that it is quite a bit smaller than the SD1. What are the XD-9's dimensions?

3) Any hard drive or mass storage device included or available as an add on option?

4) Notlos, since I know that you appreciate & play jazz standards & latin (bossa) music too, how many acoustic jazz swing/brush and bossa/latin styles are included on this board?

5) I know that the Sd1 is a fantastic board, so what features on the SD1 (except for 76 vs 61 keys) are MISSING on the XD-9?

6) And lastly (I knew you would be wondering WHEN I was going to ask this ): Does the XD-9 support the Bill Evans jazz style 'rootless voicings' that is included on the SD1? This feature is supported in split keyboard mode on the SD1, so I HOPE that the XD-9 does too.

WHEN will the XD-9 be released in the USA? If the XD-9 meets the above criteria, this may be the PERFECT time for me to FINALLY purchase a Ketron-Solton keyboard.

Best Regards,

Scott
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#186304 - 04/04/02 08:39 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Scott ,
Great questions . I am certain that the rootless chording is or will be implemented with the XD9 .
The XD9 will have options such as hard drive , vocal kit and video interface .
The navigation will be more screen intensive vs. the X1 . You will press a catagory and the sounds or styles will appear on the screen . Use the function buttons located on
the side of the display to select . The X1 navigation is completely different .
The Sd1 offers 309 styles vs . 172 on the XD9 .
The SD1 has 48 megs dedicated to ROM ,
the XD9 has 24megs .
JUNE OR JULY ................

That's all I know right now . More to come ! dano


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#186305 - 04/04/02 10:56 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Thanks Dan!

The important thing (to me) is if the 172 styles on the XD9 (vs 309 on the SD1) are 'the important styles' I would find most useful for my music specialty: jazz swing, brushes, lounge ballads, big band, and latin & blues/funk. Is there a listing of the XD9's styles and sounds available anywhere yet?

How much smaller and lighter is the XD9 compared to the SD1? The SD1 has a very small footprint for a 76 note keyboard. One of the reasons is because the pitch bend/mod wheels are located above the keybed. Are the wheels located above the XD9's keybed as well? I see that the weight is 35 lbs. Please provide the XD9's dimensions if possible. Great to hear that the XD9 has built in speakers too. I typically like to use them as a monitor. Any new speaker design enhancements compared to the X1?

Also, is the XD9's keyboard feel similar to the SD1 (hopefully) or more like the X1's?

I must admit that I've become pretty spoiled with the lightweight (24 lb) and compact size of the Yamaha PSR2000, so size and weight have become an important consideration.

Notlos & DanO: Looking forward to seeing (pics), hearing (MP3 demos), and reading more reports about the XD9 as they become available. This definitely looks to be an exciting year for arranger keyboards.

DanO: I hope you're right about the XD9 supporting the rootless voicings (like the SD1). I know this isn't important to many others here, but for piano comping jazz standard styles, it's essential. Can you possibly email Sandro to confirm that this will actually be implemented?

Dan: btw, I hope you can contact Justin (Guitar Center associate you used to work with in your Baltimore store) to arrange getting arranger keyboards (especially Ketron -Solton) in the San Francisco Bay area Guitar Centers: specifically the East Bay El Cerrito store. Unfortunately no one at the Guitar Centers around here knows about Solton-Ketron keyboards. Hopefully you can work with Justin to change that.


Thanks,


Scott
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#186306 - 04/05/02 08:07 AM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Notlos and Dan:
Short and sweet question. Is the manual anything like the X1s/SD1?
I've decided that before I purchase another keyboard lately, I want to fall in love with the manual first, before I fall for the Keyboard.
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#186307 - 04/05/02 11:09 AM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Let me see if I can satisfy all questions with just one post!

For Scott:
1) Are the acoustic piano(s) sample(s) the same one used on the SD1?
>>> Identical.

2) How do the XD-9 sounds/styles compare to the SD1/X1?
>>> A little of both but with a whole lot more new styles.

3) Any hard drive or mass storage device included or available as an add on option?
>>> Yes, HD 7 Flash Cards.

5) I know that the Sd1 is a fantastic board, so what features on the SD1 (except for 76 vs 61 keys) are MISSING on the XD-9?
>>> Some include Wave Sync, Sampler ...

6) And lastly (I knew you would be wondering WHEN I was going to ask this ): Does the XD-9 support the Bill Evans jazz style 'rootless voicings' that is included on the SD1?
>>> Yes in both split and full keyboard modes.

Also, is the XD9's keyboard feel similar to the SD1 (hopefully) or more like the X1's?
>>> Similar to SD1 keyboard fill but with 61 keys instead!

Great to hear that the XD9 has built in speakers too. I typically like to use them as a monitor. Any new speaker design enhancements compared to the X1?
>>> Yes - Special enhanced Bass Boost circuitary, speakers & ports!

Unfortunately no one at the Guitar Centers around here knows about Solton-Ketron keyboards. Hopefully you can work with Justin to change that.
>>> Work is currently in progress to expand marketing of KETRON products, including other Guitar Centers.

For Mario:
Short and sweet question. Is the manual anything like the X1s/SD1?
>>> The manual will be more detailed (I am currently working on it now).

More info can be found on the Italian website (www.ketronclub.it) wrt size, dimensions etc.

Thanks,

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#186308 - 04/05/02 12:29 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Maybe I missed it, but is there a MSRP yet?
Also, how many outputs and how many footswitchs, pedals, etc.?
Thanks,
Don
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#186309 - 04/05/02 01:36 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
notlos Offline
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Hello guys,

I see most answers have already been given.
thanks to ketron_aj and dano1.
to donM: I think the XD9 only have a left en right output also a micro out. I have played only 1 hour on this instrument.
to Scottyee: Yes i play very much at this time (and so i have not many time to be here on this forum..also my dayjob included).
But if i have time a read much on this forum.
Here are some other specifications of the XD9.
* 32 multitimbral
* 290 preset sounds, more than 1000 percussive sounds.
* 60 programmable 1 touch (to style assigment)
* 24 drum sets, 24 user drumsets
* 50 live drums
* 172 internal styles
* ms style conversion
* 13 arabic setups
* left/right output, sustain and volume pedal-input footswitch (fs6 or 13), micro out.
* amplification: 2 x 22 W rms (with enhanced bass)
* arranger: rewritable parameters,4 arrangers,3 intro/endings, 4 fills(1 break),
interactive accompaggment and brass, tempo control, Rootless and standard chord recognition (for scottyee !!).
Greetings Notlos http://www.mp3.com/dirkbaert



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#186310 - 04/05/02 01:45 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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I'm assuming the variations, fills, intros and endings have dedicated buttons, rather than having to choose for a menu (PSR2000).
I also wonder how many User Styles can be stored.
DonM
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#186311 - 04/05/02 01:53 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
notlos Offline
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to donM,

the userstyles(patterns):
Up to 50 internal pattern locations.
edit functions: record, clear, copy, remap.
espansion memory available (optional)
Notlos.


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#186312 - 04/05/02 02:16 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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I think the XD9 will be the hottest thing out soon!

Hmmmmmmm? I want one :>)

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#186313 - 04/05/02 08:03 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Yes ! the Xd9 is going to smoke ! Not in a fire kind of way . What I really dig is the feedback from AJ + Notlos . I said earlier that AJ will be a great asset . We already have Dirk giving some great imput as well . Rock on ! dano
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#186314 - 04/07/02 04:24 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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hi,
Here's the link for the new xd-9. http://www.ketron.de.vu/
Greetings,
Notlos.


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Every time a tree is cut down here on earth, i believe it will grow again somewhere else-in some other world. So, when i die, it is to this place that i want to go, where forest live in peace... ACJ

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#186315 - 04/07/02 05:35 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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Where are the fill and variation buttons located? Left, right or middle?
Thanks,
DonM
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#186316 - 04/07/02 05:43 PM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
notlos Offline
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Hi Don,

The fill's (3) and break are on the left side.
The variatonbuttons (4) on the right.
tap/restart/start-stop/hold and start-stop in the middle.
Regards,
Notlos

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#186317 - 04/08/02 01:24 AM Re: new "ketron XD-9"
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sorry don,
in the middle there is one start-stop button.
(a little mistake!!)
notlos.
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